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BCloss [Kloss] Family

Following data is from Karen, nee Weisenburger, Abel who is working with Ralph Wiseman.  The data is from Lutheran Church Records of Moersfeld and Kriegsfeld / Kirschheimbolanden, Pfalz [Palatinate], Germany

See Moresfeld / Rockenhausen, Palatinate [Moresfeld / n. Kirscheimbolanden and Rockenhausen in Donnersberg Dist., Rhineland-Palatinate. ] .  

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Gen. 1

Maria Catharina Engel [Engelica, Angelica] Closs,

Johann Philipp Pfaff [smilecorrection 1 Mar 2002 FHL Film #193924 for Kriegsfeld/Moersfeld)

  • son of  Conrad Pfaff and Anna Margaretha Kolb
  • b. 21 Sept 1733 Imsbach / ___, ___ [Imsbach / DonnersbergKreis, Rhineland-Palatinate]
  • d  5 May 1836 Freudenthal / Odessa., S. Russia
  • Migr. from Moersfeld, Kirchheim-Bolanden, Palatainate [Pfalz], Germany in 1784 to orschau / Ungarn, Austria-Hungary then in 1806 to Freudental / Od. , S. Russia
  •  #627 & 628 & 629 Moersfeld Family Bk. -http://www.geschichtswerkstatt-moersfeld.de/Ortsfamiliebuch-Gesamt.pdf
  • m. (2)  Philippine Elizabeth ______b.bef 1743 poss Niederhausen am Rhine-Baden, Germany  (PE)d. abt. 1790 Torschau, Batschka [Ungarn], Austria-Hungary
  • m. (3)  abt 1790  [poss 17891 Hungary #1761167] to widow  Christine Ottmer  b.  poss. 12 March 1782  Zwerenberg, Wu.  d. poss 18 Nov 1862 Freudental #1884099/3 5  [ See letter from jmeeuwig]
  • m. (1) Issue: 
  • Issue:
  1. Maria Pfaff , 55,  b. ca. 1760 m. Wilhelm Erps
  2. Johann Peter Pfaff , b. 22 April  1761 at Morsfeld / Kircheimbolanden , baptised 26 Apr 1761,  d. 5 May 1836, m. (1) Philippine Elizabeth  ______; m. (2) Christina ______  
  3. Johanna Maria Pfaff, b. 9 March 1764 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden d. Sept 1765 Moersfeld
  4. Johan Michael Pfaff b. 28 August 1766 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden d. bef 1833 poss. in or near Freudental Od. S. Russia, m. Sybilla _____ , bef. 1798
  5. Philippina Elisabetha Pfaff, b. 16 October 1768 at Moersfeld/Kircheimbolanden, d. 12 January 1769 Moersfeld / Kirchseimbolanden
  6. Eva Barbara Pfaff, b. 7 January 1770 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden
  7. Conrad Peter Pfaff, b. December 1772 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden
  8. Susanna Katharina Pfaff, b. 2 February 1776 at Morsfeld/Kircheimbolanden, d. 2 May 1782

See Family In More Detail

Gen. 2
Johannes   Closs

Anna Elisabetha Orschied[t]

  • dau. of Chris. Orschied and NN
  • b. abt Jan 1701
  • d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Peter Closs "Webermeister, Buergermeister and Kirchenvorsteher" b. ?  d.? m. 15 Oct 1748 Moersfeld m. 15 Oct 1748 to Johanna Maria Lampert b. abt 1730 Moersfeld. Source: #83 Moersfeld Family Bk. - http://www.geschichtswerkstatt-moersfeld.de/Ortsfamiliebuch-Gesamt.pdf Issue:
      • Johann Peter Clos b. 28 Aug 1750 Moersfeld
      • Johannes Clos b. 6 March 1754 Moersfeld b. 27 June 1821 #086 m. 10 Aug 1784 to Maria Philippina Orschiedt b. 20 Sept 1760 Daimbacher Hof  d. 4 Dec 1833 Daimbacher Hof  #604 Moresfeld Bk. Issue:
        • Maria Engel Clos b. 2 Jan 1785 Daimbacher d. 20 Aug 1791 Dambacher
        • Georg Peter Clos b. 22 Dec 1786
        • Catharina Clos b. 4 Oct 1788 Daimbacher #476
        • Anna Barbara Clos b. 12 Dec 1790 Daimbacher m. in Kriefsfeld to Adam Wolf
        • Johan Christoph [Christophel] Clos b. 22 July 1792 Daimbacher #087 m. Anna Maria Merz. Issue:
          • David Clos b. 23 Jan 1828
          • Elisabetha Clos  b. 4 May 1834 Moersfeld d. 7 Feb 1835
      • Johann Philipp Peer Clos b. 16 Jan 1758  d. 18 Aug 1762 Moersfeld
      • Johann Anton Clos b. 8 Oct 1761 Moersfeld d. 29 April 1769
      • Maria Catharina Clos b. 27 Sept 1765
    2. Maria Angelica Closs b. 9 July 1726 Moersfeld d. 27 April 1729 Moersfeld
    3. Anna Catharina Closs b. 30 Oct 1728 Moersfeld
    4. Gen. 1: Maria Engel Closs b. abt 1734 Moersfeld /Kirschheim-Bolanden, Pfalz [Germany] d. Moersfeld / Palatinate, Bavaria m. Johannes Philipp Pfaff
    5. Johanna Helena Closs b. 10 Sept 1736 Moersfeld confirmed 1752 m. 8 Feb 1763  Moersfeld/Palatinate, Bavariato Johann Michael Wolff
    6. Maria Magdalenna Closs b. 23 May 1739 Moersfeld
Gen. 3
Hans Wendel Closs

Gertraut Pfannkuchen

  • dau. of Johann Jost Pfannkuchen and Dorothea ____ b. abt 1639  d. 29 Nov 1684
  • b. 27 April 1673 Moresfeld / Rockenhausen, Palatinate [Moresfeld / n. Kirscheimbolanden and Rockenhausen in Donnersberg Dist., Rhineland-Palatinate. ]
  • d. 12 Jan 1733 Moersfeld
  • Notes: #633 in the Moersfeld Family Bk. - http://www.geschichtswerkstatt-moersfeld.de/Ortsfamiliebuch-Gesamt.pdf
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Nickel  Closs, born 24 Feb 1692 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    2. Peter  Closs, born 21 Nov 1693 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    3. Johannes Closs, born 12 Feb 1696 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern; died 2 Jul 1762 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    4. Hans Laurentz  Closs, born 10 Apr 1698 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    5. Anna Magdalena  Closs, born 1 Apr 1700 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    6. Anna Margaretha Closs, born 2 Mar 1702 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    7. Hans Adam Closs, born 14 Jun 1705 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern  d. 20 May 1772 m. 14 Jan 1731 to Maria Angela Christ.
    8. Hans Christophel'  Closs, born 27 Mar 1709 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    9. Anna Maria Catharina Closs, born 15 Apr 1712 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern d. 20 Dec 1782 Wonsheim / __  m. 12 June 1740 to Joh. Conrad Cural.
Gen. 4
Hans Jacob Closs [Clos, Class, Klass, Kloss]
  • b.  1615 
  • d. bef. 1691
  • m. to

Anna Catharina Braun. dau. of Hans Adam Braun (b. 1599 Schellweiler / Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany] ) d. 2 April 1669 Shellweiler / Kusel, Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany]) and Margaretha  __NN__(b. 1605)

  • b.1647 Schellweiler / Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany] ) d. 2 April 1669 Shellweiler / Kusel, Rheinland-Pfalz [Germany])
  • d. 1723
  • Issue:
    1. Hans Wendel Closs
    2. Others?
Information from the Moersfeld  family book on Closs Family

Clos Family Page - Copy of Moersfeld Family Bk

http://www.geschichtswerkstatt-moersfeld.de/Ortsfamiliebuch-Gesamt.pdf

BORSCHIED / Orschiedt / Orschitt  FAMILY #1

See: Orschitt/ Orschiedt  Family #2

Gen 1

Anna Elisabetha Orschied   .

  •  #600.2  Moersfeld Family Bk  http://www.geschichtswerkstatt-moersfeld.de/Ortsfamiliebuch-Gesamt.pdf
  • dau. of Christian Orschied and Angelica __NN__ of Moersfeld
  • b. 2 Jan 1701  Moersfeld  / Kircheimbolanden , Rhineland-Palatinate [Pfalz]
  • d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate, [Bavaria], [Germany]
  • m. 12 Jan 1723 Moersfeld (NOTE: m. same date as her brother Johann Peter Orschied) to

Johannes Closs

  • #084 Moresfeld Family Bk.
  • b. 12 Feb 1696 Moersfeld / Kircheimbolanden , Rhineland-Palatinate [Pfalz]
  • listed occupation: master weaver ["webermeister"]
  • d. 2 July 1762 Moersfeld/Palatinate, Bavaria
  • d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate, Bavaria
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Peter Closs b. ??  d.? m. 15 Oct 1748 Moersfeld
    2. Maria Angelica Closs b. 9 July 1726 Moersfeld d. 27 April 1729 Moersfeld
    3. Anna Catharina Closs b. 30 Oct 1728 Moersfeld
    4. Gen. 1: Maria Engel Closs b. abt 1734 Moersfeld /Kirschheim-Bolanden, Pfalz [Germany] d. Moersfeld / Palatinate, Bavaria m. Johannes Philipp Pfaff
    5. Johanna Helena Closs b. 10 Sept 1736 Moersfeld confirmed 1752 m. 8 Feb 1763  Moersfeld/Palatinate, Bavariato Johann Michael Wolff
    6. Maria Magdalenna Closs b. 23 May 1739 Moersfeld
Gen. 3
Christian  Orschied #600 Morsefeld Family Bk. m.  Angelica__N.N.__ http://www.geschichtswerkstatt-moersfeld.de/Ortsfamiliebuch-Gesamt.pdf  Child #1 and child #2 are our ancstors. Issue:
  1. Gen. 1: Anna Elisabetha Orschield b. abt Jan 1701 d. 10 June 1773 Moersfeld / Palatinate, [Germany] Johannes Closs b. 12 Feb 1696 Moersfeld/Kircheimbolanden [Kirschhein-Bolanden], Palatinate [Pfalz], Bavaria [Bayern] listed occupation: master weaver ["webermeister"]
  2. *Johann Peter Orscheid abt 1698 Moersfeld d. 14 Dec 1761 #601 Moersfeld Family Bk. http://www.geschichtswerkstatt-moersfeld.de/Ortsfamiliebuch-Gesamt.pdf m. 12 Jan 1723 (same date as his sister) to Anna Barbara Wentz #893 , dau. of Johannes Wentz "Burgermeiser" and Elisabeth __NN__ from Gumbsheim. Some of the Wentz family migr. to Lancaster Co., PA, USA ..... Issue:
    • Anton Orschiedt b. 7 Sept 1723 Moersfeld  d. 1 Jan 1778 Moersfeld  #602 m. 28 Dec 1747 Orbis / ___ to Maria Catharina Jung b. 10 May 1719  d. 27 Dec 1802 Moersfeld
      • Johann Daniel  Orschiedt b. 31 May 1749 Orbis  d. 27 De 1802 #602  m. abt 1774 Moersfeld to Anna Maria Forcher b. 9 Sept 1755 Wendelsheim / __ d. 29 Dec 1813 Moersfeld. Johann was during the French occupation a Munisipal Agent (Excutive Mayor) of Moersfeld and Daimbach from 1798 to 1800. Issue:
        • Maria Catharina Orschiedt b. abt 1776 d. 29 Dec 1776 Moersfeld
        • Johann Heinrich  Orschiedt b. 19 March 1777 d. 12 Sept 1856 Moersfeld #610 m. 13 Feb 1809 to Anna Maria Benzheimer b. 16 March 1782 Flonheim / ___  d. 18 Aug 1844 Moersfeld.  Issue:
          • Martin Orschiedt b. 24 Dec 1809 d. 24 Nov 1877 Contwig / ___  "Lehrer" in Zwiruecken and had 13 childen, with no data given on children)
          • Philipp Heinrich Orschiedt b. 17 Dec 1811 d. 14 Feb 1888 Moersfeld #611 m. 20 March 1841 to Maria Margaetha Lorenz b. 1 Sept 1812 Niederhausen / Nahe, ___ d. 28 March 1872 Moersfeld.  Issue:
            • Adamina Orschiedt b. 10 Dec 1841 Moersfeld d. 17 June 1926 Moersfeld #543
              • XXX
            • Christian Orschiedt b. 26 July 1844 d. 25 Jan 1908 Moersfeld #613
              • XXX
            • Anna Maria Orschidt b. 11 March 1847 d. 23 Jan 1913 # 545
              • XXX
            • Philipp Orschidt b. 7 March 1805 Moersfeld d. 28 May 1880 Moersfeld
            • Katharina Orschieft b. 7 Dec 1853
            • Angelika Orschid b. 11 Feb 1857
          • Maria Friederica Orschieft b. 18 March 1814
          • Konrad Orschiedt b. 4 April 1817 d. 10 May 1840
          • Christian Orschieft b. 2 Dec 1819 d. 3 June 1912  #612 m.  (1) 3 April 1875 Moersteld to Elisabeth Rodrian ,m. (2) 9 April 1847 Moersfeld to Maria Elisabeth Janson b. 26 April 1821 Wendelsheim d. 31 Dec 1912.  
            • m. (1) Issue
            • Friedrich Orshieft b. 11 Feb 1876 Moersfeld d. 26 June 1949
            • Friederika Orschidt b. 7 July 1878
            • m. (2)  Issue
            • Anna Maria Orschiedt
            • Veronica Orschiedt
            • Magdalena Orschieft
            • Katharina Orschiet
            • Heinrich Orschiedt
            • Jakob Orschiedt
            • Elisabetha Orschiedt
            • Wilhelmina Orschiet
            • Christian Orschiedt
        • Philipp David Orschiedt
        • Anna Katharina Orschidt b. 7 Feb 1782 m. 1808 to Johannes Neumann
        • Johann Marin Orschieft b. 8 June 1784
        • Conrad Peter b. 6 Sept 1788 m. 27 May 1823 to  in Stein-Bockenheim to Maria Mararetha Feudner.  Issue: 
          • Martin Orschiedt
        • Anna Barbara Orschiedt b. 1 Feb 1791
        • Philipp Orschieft b. 13 Maly 1797 d. 20 May 1801 Moersfeld
      • Anna Eva Barbara Orschiedt b. 20 Feb 1751 Moersfeld m. 22 Feb 1773 in Steinbockenheim to  to Martin Kriss
      • stillborn b. & d. 31 Oct 1752 Moersfeld
      • Friedrich Peter Orschiet b. 31 Dec 1753 Moersfeld 
    • *Johann Philipp Orschiet b. 16 July 1726 Moersfeld d. Freudenthal / Od., S. Russia  #603 #604 #605 m. (1) in Daimbacher Hof to Maria Margaetha __NN___; m. (2) 30 July 1770 to Martia Ottilia Schwarz . Migr. 16 May 1784 from Daimbacher Hoff to Vienna then to Torschau / Ungarn .  In 1806 migr. to Freudental / Odessa, S. Russia. Issue:
      • m. (1) Issue
      • m. (2) Issue
      • *Johannes Orschiedt b. 20 April 1771 Daimbacher Hof #609
      • Maria Margaretha Orschidt b. 19 Jan 1773 Daimbacher b. 10 April 1778 Daimbaher
      • Wilhelmina Friderica Orschiedt b. 3 Dec 1774 Daimbacher Hoff
      • Carl Philipp Orschiedt b. 30 Dec 1776 Daimbacher
      • Georg Valentin Orschiedt b. 1 June 1779
      • Ludwig Orschiedt b. 14 Feb 1782 Daimbacher Hof
      • Anna Margaretha b. 15 July 1784 Daimbacher Hof
    • Anna Elisabetha Orschiedt b. 1 Feb 1729 Moersfeld d. 11 April 1730 Moersfeld
    • Maria Angela Orschiet b. 16 Feb 1732 Moersfeld  d. Straub / Wolga, Russia #751
    • Anna Magaretha Orschiedt b. 12 Dec 1733 Moersfeld  d. 31 Oct 1736 Moerfsfeld
    • Johann Adam Orschiedt (Zwilling) b. 12 May 1736 d. 11 April 1738 Moersfeld
    • Anna Elisabetha Orschiedt (Zwilling) b. 12 May 1736
    • Johann Adam Orschiedt b. 11 April 1738 #607 m. 27 Dec 1764 Moersfeld to Anna Maria Eichenhoern. Issue:
      • Johan Daniel Orschiedt b. 6 Aug 1765
      • Philipp Peter Orschiet b. 27 July 1773
      • Christina Elisabetha Orschiet b. 8 Nov 1769
    • Johann Nicolaus b. 21 March 1739 d. 15 Oct 1748 Moersfeld
    • Maria Elisabetha Orschiedt b. 30 July 1741 Moersfeld d. 19 Oct 1742 Moersfeld
    • Anna Barbara Orschiedt b. 29 April 1744 d. 22 June 1762 Moersfeld
    • Johann Heinrich Orschiedt b. 12 June 1746  d. Straub / Wolga, Russia #606 m. 8 March 1764 Dielkirchen / ___ to Anna Catharina Bauer b. abt 1744 d. 1766.  As a widow Carl migr. in 1767 through Luebeck to Straub an der Wolga-Wiessenseite Russia and arrived 12 May 1767. Carl rem. (2) 1798 Straub/ Wolga to Anna Elisabetha Riegel. Issue:
      • m. (1) Issue:
      • Johann Adam Orschiedt b. 3 Dec 1764 Dielkirchen  d. about 1765 Dielkirchen
      • Carl Philipp Orschiedt b. 10 June 1766  and d. 23 Aug 1766 Dielkirchen
      • m. (2) Issue:
      • no data given.  

Ills. #1

Ills. #2

Both Ills #1 and Ills. #2  were sent to be by Patty Pantelaldis who through her cousin in Germany found these records:

April 27, 2010:

>>Hi Remmick --just to let you know that I found the marriage records of Elisabetha Orschied and ...one of her brother Johann Peter to Anna Barbara  Wentz on 12 of Jan  1723

Here is the English translation ...Johann  Peter's was one page and Johannes Closs on the next, they they were both under the same date, 12 Jan 1723-

"Also the...in Morsefeld was wedded Johann Peter Orschiedt, Christ Orschiedts legitimate son and Anna Barabara, Johannes Wentzes from Morsefeld legitimate daughter.

Also the ..in Morsefeld were wedded Johannes Closs, Wendel Closses legitmate son and Elisabatha, Christ Orschiedts legitimate daughter"

So there we have the proof hat Peter and Elisabetha are siblings.<<

Orchiedt Family in Moersfeld Family Book

See, also, Orschiedt / Orschitt Family #1

BORSCHIED / Orschiedt / Orschitt   FAMILY #2

Gen. 1

Magdalena Orschitt  [Orschied / Orschiedt) of Freudental/ Od. b. abt 1809 poss Freudental / Od., dau. of __NN___ [possibly dau. of Johan Peter Orschiedt #609  b. abt 1770-71 and Catharina Licht ] ,   m. Heinrich Jacob Geisler  / Geissler / Geiszler  b. about or before 1824   Issue:

  1.  Elizabeth Friedericka Geissler b. abt 1843   Film #1882636 / 1 333 106 EL., PBN:66 m. 12 March 1865 to Friederick Jacob Pfaff b. 17 Feb 1843  d. 1885  
    • m. (1)
    • 1. Juliana Pfaff, b. 20 April 1863 at Neu Freudental
    • 2. Friedrich Pfaff, b. 13 December 1864 at Neu Freudental, d. 7 August 1865 at Neu Freudental
    • m. (2)
    • 3. son [Friedrich]
    • 4. Michael Pfaff, b. 30 October 1867 at Neu Freudental
    • 5. Karl Pfaff  b. 15 April 1870 m. Elizabeth Weber
    • 6. Pauline Sm. Pauline [Bulena] Pfaff b. 1 April 1872  Pfaff Chutor Worms, Od. S. Russia d. 10 Nov. 1955 Medina, ND, USA bur. Streeter, ND, m. Jacob Roemmich of Worms / Od. S. Russia b. 28 April 1877 Worms, Odessa, S. Russia, son of Jacob Roemmich b.  1851  and Katharina Mauch. Click on name above for more details on her marriage and family members.  Family migrated to Streeter, ND, USA  in 1906
    • 7. Christine Pfaff b. 28 Dec. 1873  Pfaff Chutor  d. 1 Sept. 1954 Jamestown, ND USA m. 26 Oct 1897 to Ludwig Ebel. b. 11 Nov 1869 Worms / n. Odessa, S. Russia d. 11 May 1931 Jamestown / Stutsman Co., ND, USA XXX(Ancestry.com / Ebel Family Tree / owner: fracesebel) Migr. to USA 23 April 1898. Migrated from Worms /Od in 1898 on the 23rd of  April to USA  Issue:
      • John Ebel b. 1899 m. Katharina Wiest
      • Minnie Ebel m. Ben Eissenger
      • Lydia Ebel b. 1906 Medina, N. D. , USA m. Jack Weist
      • Samuel Ebel  m. Rose Stuckle
      • Roselia Ebel m. (1) John Fleck; m. (2) R.H. McCrea
      • Frederick Ebel m. Sally _____
    • 8. Johann  Pfaff b. 20 Jan 1874 (??) Neu Freudental/Od. S. Russia  d. 10 Dec 1877 [Note: Probably son of Friedrich Jakob Pfaff and Katharina Hust)
    • 9. Jacob Pfaff, b. 1 April 1876 at Neu Freudental
    • 10. Reichard Pfaff, b. 10 July 1878 at Neu Freudental
    • 11. Sammuel  Pfaff  b. 1 Dec 1883 Neu Freudental/ Od. S. Russia d. USA m. Elisabeth Geier b. 23 April 1886 Neu Freudental, Od. S. Russia
    • others
    • Margaretha Pfaff, b. 10 September 1885 at Freudental m. Schmalz
  2. Georg Friedrich Pfaff, b. 1 April 1845 at Neu Freudental Fim. #1882636 1 333  106 EL., PBN:66
  3. Reinhard Pfaff, b. 26 June 1847 at Neu Freudental m. 17 Nov 1870 Neu Freudental / Odessa to Elisabeth Wacker (Source: Karen's The German-Russian Pfaff Family, rootsweb) Issue:
    • Reinhard Pfaff b. 28 Aptil 1871 Neu Freudental , Od., S. Russia d. 1 May 1871 Neu Freudental / Od. S. Russia
    • Catharine Pfaff b. 14 July 1874 d. 11 Aug 1875 Neu Freudental / Od. S. Russia
Gen. 2
*more than possible but not official.........

Johann Orschit /  Orscheidt (#609 Moersfeld Family Bk.) b. 1770 /71 Moersfeld / n. Rockenhausen, Donnersberg Kreis, Rheinland-Palatinate (Pfalz)  d. 1842 poss. Freudental / Od., S. Russia  m. *Christina Licht  Migr. to Torschau fr Baden then in 1806 to Fruedental / Od., S. Russia See Johann's grandparents #601  

*It is highly likely that Johann  and Chrisstina are our ancestor......

There is a Licht family who lived in the wine villages of Wintrich, Filzen and Kesten which are all in Rhineland.  They are directly west of Mainz some hundred miles.  One name did spark interest and that was Petrus Remigus Lecht.   Family goes back to abt 1564.  See ancestor.com/ owner: carolyngrow1.  

There is a Lichtenberg Castle in Kusel / Kusel Dist., Rhineland-Palatinate which is interesting and may lead us to more information on this family.  Many times,  when families took up surrnames they used place names.  And, it appears the family probably came from the Rhineland area. 

Gen. 3

Johann Philipp  Orschitt / Orschiedt # 605 b. Mörsfeld 16 July 1726 Moersfeld / n. Rockenhausen and Kirscheimbolanded, Donnersbergkreis, Rhineland-Palatinate (Pfalz)  d. aft 1806 when he migr. to Freudenthal / Od., S. Russia m. 30 July 1770 to Maria Ottilia Schwarz (follow Johan's linke for more deatils on family.) Issue:

  1. Gen. 2: Johannes Orscheidt b. 1771 m. Christina Licht b. 1779
  2. Maria Margaetha Orschiedt
  3. Wilhelmina Friderica Orschidt
  4. Carl Philipp Orschiedt
  5. Georg valentin Orschiedt
  6. Ludwig Orschiedt
  7. Anna Margaretha Orchiedt

Schwarz family is another family of Moersfeld, who may have migr. from Oppenheim / Mainz-Bingen Dist., Rhineland-Palainate.  A possible relative [father, brother, uncle  or cousin ] was Johann Friedrich Schwarz b. abt 1744 poss Oppenheim  d. Morsefeld 4 Feb 1829 in Moersfeld m. abt 1765 to Maria Elisabeth __NN__ b. 1 April 1726 Daimbacher Hoff  d. 28 Feb 1775 Daimbacher Hof. .  However, I cannot seem to find the Licht family at this time. A Friedrich Schwarz recieved a prospecting licenses for mercury in the open field outside the boundaries of Carl Theodor and Elisabeth Grube's pits.

Daimbacher Hoff is right next to Moersfeld.

Gen. 4

Johann Peter Orschiedt  #601 b. abt 1698 d.  14 Nov 1761 Moersfeld / n. Rockenhausen, Kirschheimbolanded, Donnersbergkreis, Rheinland-Palatinate, Germany m. 12 Jan 1723 Moersfeld to Anna Barbara Wentz  , dau. of Johannes Wentz and Elisabeth __NN__  Issue:

  1. Anton Orschiedt b. 1723 m. 28 Nov 1747 to Maria Catharina Jung b. 1 May 1721 Orbis / n. Moersheim, Donnersbergkreis, Rheinland-Palatinate (Pfalz)  d, 27 Dec 1802 Moersfeld , dau. of Andras Jung (d. 1780) and Anne Eva Frey (b. 1700 d. 1780)
  2. Gen. 3 : Johann Philipp Orschiedt b. 1726 m. 30 July 1770 to Maria Ottilia Schwarz
  3. Anna Elisabeth b. 1729
  4. Maria Angela Orschiedt b. 1731
  5. Anna Margaretha Orschiedt b. 1733
  6. Anna Elisabeth Orschiedt b. 1736
  7. Johann Adam Orschiedt b. 1738
  8. Johann Nicolaus Orschiedt b. 1739
  9. Maria Elisab eth Orschiedt b. 1741
  10. Johann Heinrich Orschiedt b. 1746
Gen.. 5

Christian Orschiedt #600 b. 1670  Moersfeld / n. Kirchheimbolanded, Donnersberg, Rhineland-Palatinated, Germany m. 1703 and Angelica __NN__ b. abt 1673 Follow his link for more deatils of his family  They are our ancestors two times.  See above. Issue:

  1. Anna Margaretha Orschiedt
  2. Ann Maria Orschiedt
  3. Christina Orschiedt
  4. Maria Angelic Orschiedt b. 1690
  5. Gen. 4: Johann Peter Orschiedt  #601 b. abt 1698 d.  14 Nov 1761 Moersfeld / n. Rockenhausen, Kirschheimbolanded, Donnersbergkreis, Rheinland-Palatinate, Germany m. 12 Jan 1723 Moersfeld to Anna Barbara Wentz  , dau. of Johannes Wentz and Elisabeth __NN__  Family #2
  6. Gen. 1 : Anna Elisabetha Orschiedt b. 1701 d. 1773 Family #1
Gen. 6

Johannes Orschiedt #599 b. abt 1636 Morsefeld / Kirchheimbolanden, Donnersberg, Rhineland-Palatinate m. Susanna __NN___  Issue:

  1. Christopf Orschiedt b. 1667
  2. Gen. 5:  Christian Orschiedt #600 b. 1670  Moersfeld / n. Kirchheimbolanded, Donnersberg, Rhineland-Palatinated, Germany m. 1703 and Angelica __NN__ b. abt 1673 Follow his link for more deatils of his family 
Gen. 7

__NN__ Orschiedt

Gen. 8

Research:

There is a Katharina Orschit b. 1792 from Dorvat / Banat  d. 1837 Freudental / Od. , S. Russia m. Wilhelm Geisler  (Source: Torshcau list of GRHS)

#1  Source: ancestry.com / ruussland / owner: brumar196

Johann Orschitt b. 1770 Ugarn  Issue:

Heinrich Jakob Orschitt b. 1803 m. Magdalena Geissler Issue:

  1. Konrad Orschitt b. 17 Jan 1839 Neu Freudental / Odessa, S. Russia m. Margarethe Neher b. 23 April 1838 Freduental Odessa, dau.  of Lorenz Neher (b. 12 Nov 1791 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg [Germany]) and Beate Seigele  (b. 19 Sept. 1799)  
  2. Heinrich Orschitt b. 1843

JARH Note: I have another Orscheid or Orschitt ancestor.
Additional information:

Heinrich  Jakob Oschitt b. 1803  d. Freudental / Od, son of Johann Orschitt  (b. 1770)   m. Magdaelna Geissler (Source: ancestry.com / russland / owner: brumar196) Issue:

  1. Konad Orschitt b. 1839 m. 22 Nov 1862 Margarethe Nehr b. 1838 Freudental / Od, dau. of Lorenz Neher (b. 1791 Duerrwaen / Wuerttemberg) and Beate Siegele (b. 1799)
  2. Heinrich Orschitt b. 1843 m. 18 April 1876 to Rosalie Reister
Orschitt/ Orschiedt  Family #2

Magdalena Orschitt   b. before 1825 of Freudental/ Od. m. to Heinrich Jacob Geisler (Geissler / Geizler) b. about or before 1824

Orchiedt Family in Moersfeld Family Book

BPFANNNKUCHEN FAMILY

Gen. 1
Gertraut Pfannkuchen
  • dau. of Johann Jost Pfannkuchen and Dorothea ____ b. abt 1639  d. 29 Nov 1684
  • b. 27 April 1673 Moersfeld
  • d. 12 Jan 1733 Moersfeld
  • m. Jan 1691 Moersfeld / Kirschheimbolanded, Palatinate

Hans Wendel Closs

  • son of Hans Jacob Closs
  • b.
  • d.
  • Issue:
    1. Johann Nickel  Closs, born 24 Feb 1692 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    2. Peter  Closs, born 21 Nov 1693 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    3. Johannes Closs, born 12 Feb 1696 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern; died 2 Jul 1762 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    4. Hans Laurentz  Closs, born 10 Apr 1698 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    5. Anna Magdalena  Closs, born 1 Apr 1700 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    6. Anna Margaretha Closs, born 2 Mar 1702 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    7. Hans Adam Closs, born 14 Jun 1705 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    8. Hans Christophel'  Closs, born 27 Mar 1709 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
    9. Anna Maria Catharina Closs, born 15 Apr 1712 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.
Gen. 2
Johann Jost Pfannkuchen (#633 Moersfeld Fam. Bk.)
  • d.
  • d.
  • occupation:  Schultheis, Buergemeister  (mayor) 1790-1719 of Moersfeld
  • m.

Dorothea____NN___

  • born abt 1639; died 29 Nov 1684 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
  • 29 Nov 1684
  • Issue:
    1. Ludwig Pfannkuchen b. abt 1660 (#635)
    2. Anna Barbara Pfannkuchen, born 21 Aug 1664 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern (#694)
    3. Peter Pfannkuchen, born 26 Apr 1668 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
    4. Hans Heinrich Pfannkuchen b. 26 April 1668 Moersfeld
    5. Gertraut Pfannkuchen, born 27 Apr 1673 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern; died 12 Jan 1733 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
    6. Johann Philipp Pfannkuchen, born abt 1678; died 17 Sep 1746 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern (#634) . NOTE Marriage record in 1704 indicated that he was the son of Hans Jost Pfannkuchen.
    7. Ludwig Heinrich Pfannkuchen b. 30 Sept 1679 Moersfeld d. 23 Feb 1759
    8. Ludwig Heinrich b. 15 Feb 1680
    9. Heinrich Pfannkuchen, born Dec 1680 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern
    10. Anna Sybilla Pfannkuchen b. abt 1681  d. 11 June 1707 Wendelsheim / ___, ___ (poss. Wendelshim / Alzley-Worms Dist., Rheinland-Palatinate, Germany)  m. Matthes Schnell of Wendelsheim
    11. Elisabetha Pfannkuchen, born 11 Mar 1683 in Mörsfeld, Pfalz, Bayern.

Pfannkuchen  Research

Also see Remmick's Palatinate History and Maps

They were believed as ancestors, but they were not, however, I've left them on this page for those who are researching Engle family.
Andreas Engle
  • b. 1711 Kriegsfeld / Kirschheimbolanden, Palatinate, Germany
  • d. 1790 Moersfeld/ Kirschheimbolanden, Palainate, Germany
  • Occupation: "Bildweber" [Picture Weaver] in Moersfeld
  • m. (2) 1759 Moersfeld  to Maria Appolonia ____
  • m. (1)

Anna Catherina _____

  • b.
  • d.26 Dec 1756 Moersfeld / Korschheimbolanded, Palatinate, Germany
  • Issue:
    1. Johan Heinrich  Engle b. 27 April 1738 Moersfeld  d. 17 March 1740 Moersfeld
    2. Johann Philipp Engle b. 3 Zpril 1740 Moersfeld
    3. Maria Catharina Engel
    4. Anna Catharina Engel b. 6 May 1744  Moersfeld
    5. Anna Appolonia Engel b. 29 May 1747 Moersfeld
    6. Johann Christoph Engel b. 17 Aril 1750 Moersfeld
B Nehr Family Information:
Gen. 1

Margarethe Neher b. 23 April 1838 Freduental Odessa m. Konrad Orschitt b. 17 Jan 1839 Neu Freudental / Odessa, S. Russia , son of Heinrich  Jaskob Orschitt b. 1803 and Magdalena Geissler

Gen. 2

Lorenz Neher (b. 12 Nov 1791 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg [Germany]), son of ___see  Gen. 3___  m. (1)  1812 to Katharina Elisabeth Meier b. 1793 d. 1837   ; m. (2) 5 Sept 1837 to  Beate Seigele  (b. 19 Sept. 1799)  Issue:

  • m. (1)  Issue:
    1. Johannes Neher b. 1813 d. 1883
    2. Anna Elisabeth Neher b. 1815
    3. Katharina Barbara Neher b. 2 Sept 1816 Freudental / Odessa, S.  Russia  d. March 1881  m.  2 Jan 1836 to Friedrich Pfaff b. 10 Nov 1811 Freudental / Odessa  d. 15 Feb 1880, son of Philip Peter Pfaff (b. 2 Dec 1787 Torschau / Austria-Hungary  d. 21 Sept 1853 Freduental / Odessa, S. Russia) and Barbara Ebs (b. 1790)
      • Johann Wilhelm Pfaff b. 16 Aug 1836 Freudental / Odessa d. 1916 m. 23 Jan 1858 to Katharina Wiedmeier b. 1 June 1837 Freudental / Odessa S. Russia  d. 23 Dec 1918 Washington, USA, dau. of Johann Georg Wiedmeier (b.  20 Jan 1799 Wuerttemberg  d. 16 Feb 1860 Neu Freudental / Odessa, S. Russia ) and Dorothea Elisabeth Stolz (b. 1803 d. 10 Dec 1845 Ne Freudenal / Odessa) .  Issue:
        • Elisabeth Pfaff b. 26 March 1862 Freudental / Odessa   d. 1 April 1924 m. Christian Oster b. 6 July 1858 Freudetnal / Odessa, S. Russia  d. 30 July 1928, son of Jakob Oser b. 1837 d. 1912) and Christine Friedrike Goll (b. 1839)
        • Friedrich Pfaff b. 18 Feb 1864 Freudental / Odessa  d. 10 Nov 1939 m. Christine Oster b. 1868
        • Johann Pfaff b. 17 Feb 1878 Freudental / Dessa, S. Russia  d. 18 March 1959 Washington, USA m. 1902 to Elisabeth Becker b. 21 Dec 1879 ___/ Odessa, S. Russia  d. 1848 Washington , USA  XX
      • Friederike Pfaff b. 1845
    4. Ludwig Neher b. 1825
    5. Lorenz Heher b. 1828
    6. Jakob Heher b. 1830
  • m. (2)  Issue:
    1. Margaretha Neher b. 23 April 1838 Freudental m. 22 Nov 1862 to Konrad Orschitt
    2. Barbar Heher b. 1845

Gen. 3

Johann Ludwig Neher b. 1 Sept 1762 Duerrwagen / __ Wu. d. Torschau / Austria-Hungary   m. 25 June 1788 to Margarethe Schlangenhauf b. 31 Aug 1766 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg d. Torschau, dau. of __NN__  Issue:

  1. Lorenz Neher (b. 12 Nov 1791 Duerrwagen / __, Wuerttemberg [Germany]) m. (1)  1812 to Katharina Elisabeth Meier b. 1793 d. 1837   ; m. (2) 5 Sept 1837 to  Beate Seigele  (b. 19 Sept. 1799)

Gen. 4

Lorenz Nehr b. 1747 Duerrwagnen, Wu  m. Agnes Katharina Merz b. 1747 Duerrwagen , Wu  Issue:

  1. Johann Ludwig Neher b. 1 Sept 1762 Duerrwagen / __ Wu.   m. Margarethe Schlangenhauf b. 1766